[whataretheysaying] Mary Madigan: A God we've never seen

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Posted by Mary Madigan:
A God we've never seen
http://whataretheysaying.powerblogs.com/posts/1196366156.shtml


   We sit outside and argue all night long
   About a god we've never seen
   But never fails to side with me

   - Primitive Radio Gods

   Rosemary Esmay on [1]Faith or Proof

     You don't want to believe in a higher being? Fine don't. But don't
     fool yourself into thinking that you don't because you require
     proof. You don't require proof, you don't want proof. You choose
     not to believe out of fear. It's easier to live your life however
     you please, if you don't have to answer for it in the end.
     Cowardice is what that is, not higher critical thinking.

   Willow has [2]A Question for Atheists

     Or former atheists, or anyone who has an answer they like. Every so
     often I like to see how far one of my fundamental beliefs can be
     stretched by intelligent opposition. Today I want you to try to
     convince me there is no God, WITHOUT referencing "the problem of
     evil." ...Nothing you say will offend me, except perhaps
     artistically, unless you flat out call me or any other theist
     retarded.

   I believe in God, but since I define God as life, death and universal
   existence, I don't need any proof that God exists. However, I have
   some "faith" that there is a possibility that a God, as defined by
   various and maybe all religions, could also exist. Myths are often
   based on some being or fact-of-existence that still remains
   undiscovered by current technology.

   Hobbits/elves/brownies/little people could be based on [3]this
   recently discovered humanoid species.

   So, there could be a 'God' as defined by Christianity, or Islam or
   Judaism. There could be a Vishnu, a Great Spirit and a Sky Woman.
   Stories of dragons are told by many cultures - like fairies, aliens
   and monotheism, there is probably a factual basis for a belief in
   their existence.

   As [4]Arnold Harris says:

     As for "universe", I'm finding serious discussions that there are
     likely to be multiple universes. Maybe each one would have its own
     little god. Sort of a caporegime or sub-boss, the way the Five
     Families of New York had things organized.

   According to some theories, our known universe could be less than 4%
   of what's out there. If we can't define the universe or the exact
   nature of time, particles, etc., it doesn't make sense to spend good
   time and effort searching in our own heads for a definition of God. It
   makes more sense to spend that intellectual energy learning more about
   all that unknown stuff out there.

   Since I don't really have a dog in this fight, what I really don't get
   is - people who believe in God (usually a God defined by religion)
   usually like to accuse the other side (atheists) of being 'cowards'.
   Atheists usually accuse the religiously faithful of not being logical
   or reasonable, 'retarded'. Why are these slurs used, and why are both
   sides so offended by them? Anyone who has ever met atheists or
   believers in real life knows that these generalizations don't apply.

References

   1. http://www.qoae.net/posts/1196347375.shtml
   2. http://deanesmay.com/posts/1196100079.shtml
   3. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6346939/
   4. http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1196348259.shtml#133057