[taxabletalk] Russ: We Get Questions on Gambling Income
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Posted by Russ:
We Get Questions on Gambling Income
http://www.taxabletalk.com/posts/1223849932.shtml
Over the past few weeks we received a couple of questions. Here they
are with answers.
Timing of Online Gambling Income
Question--What if you are gambling on an online site over the course
of a year and you win some money, however you don't make a withdrawal
from the account that year? Say you save up what you win for two years
then withdrawal some do you have to report it the year you win or when
you actually withdraw it ad have in your hand?
The year your income is earned is the year that it is taxable. If an
individual has online gambling income earned in 2008 but doesn't make
a withdrawal in 2008 he still has 2008 income that must be reported on
his 2008 tax returns.
Ohio and Gambling Losses
Question--I'm a resident of Ohio. I think it's ridiculous that even
though I've been a net loser in gambling this year I must pay state
income tax on my "wins." How can this be constitutional?
In several states, mostly in the Midwest, the state income tax is
based on gross income (Federal Adjusted Gross Income with a few
changes); no itemized deductions are allowed. Under the US Tax Code
gambling income is considered Other Income included in Federal AGI;
gambling losses are an itemized deduction allowed up to the amount of
wins on Schedule A.
The situation you describe--being taxed on phantom gambling income--is
quite possible. [1]There is a Wisconsin case (Wisconsin also doesn't
allow gambling loss deductions) which explains the philosophy. [2]As I
quoted in March 2007:
"Effective January 1, 2000, gambling losses were no longer offset
against gambling winnings under the Wisconsin tax code because,
effective on that date, Wisconsin no longer permitted as a
deduction from Wisconsin taxable income â[m]iscellaneous itemized
deductions under the Internal Revenue Code,â see Wis. Stat. §
71.07(5)(a)7 (2003â04), one of which, the Department contends and
Dettwiler does not dispute, was the deduction for âwagering
losses,â under section 165(d) of the Internal Revenue Code...His
contention that he should nevertheless be permitted to subtract
from his Wisconsin taxable income the offset permitted by section
165(d) of the Internal Revenue Code is not only circular and
without merit, but is wholly contrary to the legislatureâs decision
to eliminate such offsets effective January 1, 2000.
"The Tax Appeals Commission decision is perfectly logical,
appropriate, and correct. Accordingly, we affirm."
It's actually worse in Ohio. This will not only impact your Ohio
income tax but your city income tax. Ohio is truly not a good location
to be an amateur gambler. I suggest you contact your state legislators
and request that the law be changed.
References
1. http://www.wisbar.org/res/capp/2007/2006AP001660.htm
2. http://www.taxabletalk.com/posts/1175192883.shtml
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