From exparte at lists.powerblogs.com Sat Apr 1 07:01:32 2006 From: exparte at lists.powerblogs.com (exparte@lists.powerblogs.com) Date: Sat Apr 1 07:01:35 2006 Subject: [exparte] David Welker: The Parody and Free Speech Message-ID: <20060401120132.B88B4111109@highsorcery.com> Posted by David Welker: The Parody and Free Speech http://exparte.powerblogs.com/posts/1143892876.shtml Dan, I think you make some interesting points. I can understand your concern about certain forms of expression being censored. On the other hand, I think you are making an inadequate effort to understand the perspectives of others. I would like to comment on a few things you have said. "To which I say, it's about time for some of these law students to grow up - if they can't take some friendly ribbing from their fellow students in a softball show like the Parody, how are they going to survive in the real world? Guess what kids, you're going to be made fun of all the time, without your consent and without any prior notice, and sometimes it's going to upset you. Deal with it." Could I say the same thing to you? That people who have a need to make fun of others, without regard to the emotional costs this imposes on others, need to grow up. I do agree with you, that people SHOULD not let these sorts of things bother them. But then, people rarely live up to such ideals in reality. And anyway, YOU don't know what experiences the particular individuals who make these sorts of objections have had, that gives them their perspective. It may be more difficult for these people than you or I imagine to conform to the ideal of someone who can take a good amount of ridicule without hurt feelings. All of this is to say, that people are imperfect. And that maybe we should take that into account. Ideally, a person who is overweight, would not be bothered at all if people decide to mock them for being fat. That WOULD be ideal. But I do not think that the majority of people meet this ideal. So, how should we adjust our behaviors, to how people are, or to how they should be but are not? I do not think their is a single answer to this question. Perhaps some amount of challenge and discomfort is useful to people for personal growth. But at some point, "friendly" mockery surely crosses a line to where it does more harm than good. Right? Finally, I want to say that I do not consider your concern about "censorship" to be legitimate in this particular context. (Which does not mean that the concern is not legitimate in other contexts in our modern society.) There is nothing wrong with applying social pressure in an attempt to create greater civility. I don't see that there is anything wrong with those running the Parody voluntarily making changes in response to individual concerns. Voluntary change as a result of social pressure is not equivalent to "censorship." Their has been no coercion by government or the university here. Only individuals voluntarily responding to the concerns of other individuals. Indeed, I would argue that if you want to say something that goes against certain social norms, and you cannot overcome ordinary social pressure in order to say it, well, maybe you shouldn't say it. I don't have that much sympathy for what I view as cowardice. If there was something I really wanted to say, I would not allow mere social pressure to keep me from saying it. On the other hand, if what I wanted to say was unimportant, say an ethnic joke of some kind, maybe it would be wise to show a little consideration for the feelings of others. After all, there is more to communication than just what I intend to say. Another important variable is the impact of what I say on others. Communication is a two-way street. You can say that listeners should try not to misinterpret. That is definitely true. However, speakers should formulate their words so that they are less likely to be misinterpreted. This kind of reminds me of undergrad. I was in College Republicans. Quite a few conservative students said they were too "intimidated" to state their views in classes dominated by liberal professors and students. But really, isn't this just cowardice? If people have had to fight and die for freedom, am I supposed to be that sympathetic to these students who do not even have the courage to exercise their freedom of speech in the face of ordinary social pressure? As you might say about the people you view as unduly sensitive, maybe these people need to grow up. Really. Maybe those who equate ordinary social pressure with censorship need to grow up. After all, if you truly value freedom of speech, I would hope you would exercise it when it matters, despite such pressure. You may have rights, but no one said that other individuals have a duty to avoid discouraging you when you exercise those rights in a manner they find hurtful.