[Dean's World] Dave Price: Backstabbing
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Tue Jul 10 23:04:44 EDT 2007
Posted by Dave Price:
Backstabbing
http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1184123077.shtml
Via [1]Glenn, Eric Scheie of Classical Values has [2]an amusing
rejoinder to more [3]poorly argued defeatism from Andrew Sullivan, who
notes an AP-reported incident in which U.S. forces requested 11,500
ISF to help with operations in Salman Pak, but only got 1,500 because
Iraqi officials preferred they be deployed elsewhere. Like Eric (whose
last name I freely admit I have not the slightest clue how to
pronounce), I too feel a sense of blogligation here as I was also
"approvingly linked" in Glenn's post, and unlike Glenn have actually
argued ISF are "increasingly effective" (as opposed to merely being
erroneously accused of that sin).
First off, it's obvious that if Iraq has anything like sovereignty,
Iraqi officials are going to be the ultimate arbiters of where Iraqi
troops go. They may not always agree with us, which can be
problematic, but that has little bearing on "effectiveness."
Second, in a war this large you can find a single bad example of
anything, but that proves nothing about the overall progress of Iraqi
forces' effectiveness. I can easily cite several instances where ISF
showed up and performed well, from [4]a single Bill Roggio post:
In Samawa, Iraqi Army and police units deployed throughout the city
"after negotiations with Sadr's office in the city reached a
'deadlock.'"
...
In Baghdad, Iraqi Special Operations Forces captured seven members
of "a rogue Jaysh al-Madhi" cell on July 7. This cell was part of
"a network involved in death squad activities, kidnapping and
assassination activities."
...
In Mosul, Iraqi Army Soldiers and Mosul Police officers found an
IED factory and weapons cache with "approximately 10,000 pounds of
ammonia nitrate and other bomb making materials." The Iraqi forces
also found a "military grade bunker system nearby, which had been
used as an insurgent safe house." Near Kirkuk, Iraqi troops
captured a facilitator for the Islamic Army in Iraq, along with
four associates. One insurgent was killed and eight captured during
raids in northwestern Iraq on July 7.
Or from the MNF site, Command Sgt. Maj. Jeffrey Mellinger on
[5]training Iraqi Special Forces:
After this demonstration of capabilities, Mellinger and Hill met
with the ISOF commander to express their satisfaction with the
training and professional progress the force has made.
âYou have some very, very professional soldiers,â Hill said to the
commander.
Oddly, the AP didn't pick those stories up and run with them. Maybe
they were [6]too heroic.
T=Of course, to really gauge whether ISF are getting more effective,
you'd need to look at overall numbers rather than anecdotal evidence.
While there isn't a lot of recent data, you can see in the [7]Iraq
Index that every time the military has reported on the ISF numbers and
effectiveness they've gotten better and more numerous overall, and the
[8]military's statements echo that:
Iraqi troops becoming more effective every day, general says
Iraqi security forces are becoming more capable every day, fighting
and dying for their country because the future depends on them,
U.S. Central Commandâs commander said this week
Finally, it is supremely ironic Andrew calls Glenn a
"stab-in-the-backer" while he plunges a rhetorical dagger of disdain
into the spine of our troops's work, mocking their progress in the
effort to train Iraqi security forces.
Not that I would question his patriotism, of course. That kind of
accusation is out of bounds for civil debate (except in the case of
[9]those vile, subhuman miscreants who dare question global warming
orthodoxy), unlike virtually any slander of our soldiers and their
work which is the highest form of patriotism.
References
1. http://www.instapundit.com/
2. http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2007/07/surrender_now_l.html
3. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/07/increasingly-ef.html
4. http://billroggio.com/archives/2007/07/iraq_report_phantom.php
5. http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11844&Itemid=128
6. http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1151087611.shtml
7. http://www3.brookings.edu/fp/saban/iraq/index.pdf
8. http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5792&Itemid=128
9. http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2007/07/10/science-is-treason/
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