[crouton] Nathaniel Trost: Turing AI on its head.
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Posted by Nathaniel Trost:
Turing AI on its head.
http://crouton.powerblogs.com/archives/archive_2006_03_12-2006_03_18.shtml#=
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One of my online haunts is an obscure little IRC channel, a regular
hive of scum and villainy, or at least some geeky approximation
thereof. Like many such channels, it has a resident channel bot. The
bot serves a variety of purposes, all of them frivolous. Puns are
disdained on the channel. Therefore, one recent feature addition to
the bot is a pun jar. As might be supposed, the pun jar is analogous
to the famous swear jar. When a channel denizen makes a pun, one of
their fellow members can tell the bot to punish (no pu=E2=A6oh never min=
d)
the offender. Punishing the offender adds a virtual $0.25 to the pun
jar and the bot keeps a running total of the worst transgressors.
I don=E2t think this has exactly reduced the punnery in the channel. The
term [1]perverse incentive comes to mind. It did make me reevaluate
the [2]Turing test, however. I would be much more impressed by a bot
that could recognize puns by itself versus one that could hold a
conversation. It=E2s time to move the goalposts on artificial sentience.
We shall see what this weekend holds for me. Last weekend was a
getting-my-ass-kicked-by-sci-fi weekend. Without getting into
spoilers, all I can say about the season finale of Battlestar
Galactica is that not only does Ronald D. Moore have gigantic
grapefruit in his pants, he felt the need to kick me in the family
jewels as well. They did something which pretty much eliminates
neutrality as a reaction or opinion. I=E2ll get firmly into the =E2love
it=E2 camp. I am rather bemused reading various criticisms, a lot of
people will whine about shows being complacent, getting in a rut or
playing it safe, but heaven forbid you actually make a big roll of the
dice.
That was one cheek getting booted. The other was devouring [3]Judas
Unchained . Although technically a sequel to [4]Pandora's Star , since
they are really one unbroken work, I=E2m just going to lump them
together and review them together. The rating? 4.5/5.0 Croutons.
Excellent stuff. While I enjoyed Hamilton=E2s Night=E2s Dawn books, they
did have what felt to me like some jarring flaws. In Pandora/Judas, he
has applied the same abundance of creativity and thought in creating a
fascinating future galactic spread of humanity and technology that was
the best part of Night=E2s Dawn. At the same time, Pandora/Judas avoids
some of the silly or poor characterizations (which were most prominent
in the early Night=E2s Dawn books), clunky plot elements and the literal
deus ex machina ending that dragged down Night=E2s Dawn. Since I read
fiction like a buzzsaw, even a hefty hardback like Judas gets eaten at
around one hundred pages an hour, I liked the sheer amount of detail
and action involved in the books. I will get irritated at repetition
or filler, but neither were the case with Pandora/Judas. It would be
easy to get overwhelmed, however. In retrospect I should have reread
Pandora before reading Judas, it had been almost a year and I was
belatedly recalling bits and pieces all the way through Judas. I had
forgotten just how much stuff was crammed into the first book.
Definitely read them together. Highly recommended.
References
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
3. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=3Dur2&tag=3Danit=
rouscrout-20&camp=3D1789&creative=3D9325&path=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com=
%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F0345461665
4. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=3Dur2&tag=3Danit=
rouscrout-20&camp=3D1789&creative=3D9325&path=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com=
%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F0345479211
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